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Dear subscribers to SoWaCs, I thought I'd pose a soil question which indirectly has pertinence to installing soil sensors due to potential idiosyncracies of certain soil types (e.g. too sandy or cracking clay etc.). Please forgive me for going out side the fringe of soil sensor discussion, but this group might have more soils background than Irrigation-L or Trickle-L. I am helping put together an ETo weather station irrigation scheduling tutorial on the web for the average California homeowner. In trying to describe how much water a particular soil holds, it is possible the homeowner might not know anything about soil type. Hence, I need some very basic method for a lay person to determine the type of soil his/her shrubs and lawn are growing in. When I was an undergraduate, my basic soils professor described a generic way to determine soil type within the three major categories (sand, loam, clay). The method, involved using a handful of soil, wetting it slightly, thereby trying to form a cylindrical shape. After forming this shape, one would hold the column vertically to see if it held together. If it did not form a column at all, it was definitely a sand, if it maintained a cylindrical shape rather well but did not hold up to the vertical test, it was a loam. Finally, if it formed a cylindrical shape and held up to the vertical test it was definitely a clay. Has anyone heard of this rather subjective yet quick and dirty way to determine soil type? How about another way to determine soil type by hand? I once heard a rumor at UC Davis that a professor there could determine soil type within a certain degree of accuracy by putting soil in his mouth. Don't think I'm going to recommend this procedure to a homeowner :-) Richard Mead Agrilink International